On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:26 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]>wrote:
> > dmb says: > > The most primitive tribe is intellectually guided? Not the way Pirsig uses > the word. As you may recall from Lila, he thinks socially guided societies > would include Victorian America, which still hasn't quite given up the fight > for control. To say that a culture is socially guided is NOT to say it is > meaningless or stupid, although the Victorian culture was that too. Platt Victorian culture was meaningless and stupid? Far from it: "What we tend to forget is that, unlike the European aristocrats they aped, the American Victorians were a very creative people. The telephone, the telegraph, the rail road, the transatlantic cable, the light bulb, the radio, the phonograph, the motion pictures, and the techniques of mass production—almost all the great technological changes that are associated with the twentieth century are, in fact, American *Victorian* inventions. This *city is composed* of their value patterns! It was their optimism, their belief in the future, their codes of craftsmanship and labor and thrift and self-discipline that really built twentieth-century America. Since the Victorians disappeared the entire drift of this century has been toward a dissipation of these values." (Lila, 17) Since the morally bereft intellectuals took over the direction of society, their ignorance of the creative force of Dynamic Quality has created the economic disaster the West finds itself in today. Codes of thrift and self-discipline disappeared years ago. Last time I looked, total debt in the U.S. exceeded $50 trillion. Thanks, intellect. A fine mess you've gotten us into. > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
