John, Did you ever become conscious of someone watching you? There's many such experiences of this sort I might ask you about? How would you relate those instances to your use of language?
Marsha On Nov 28, 2010, at 2:26 PM, John Carl wrote: > Hi Marsha, > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:04 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> John, >> >> How do you know? What is your evidence? How can you be sure that >> consciousness is nothing other than language? >> >> >> > Well, as all these things boil down to how you define them, I suppose it all > depends on how you define consciousness, and how you define language. So > since I'm obviously defining language as consciousness, then I don't need > evidence so much as more explanation of what I mean by language. > > As I define it, language is codified information, and, as per my recent > exchange with Adrie and his take on information, all of reality is > information, consciousness is real, therefore, consciousness is information. > > As far as evidence goes, all of my experience is evidence that > consciousness is language. The question I'd ask you is what evidence do you > have of any consciousness that is not language? The line between > consciousness and non-consciousness in MoQ terms, I'd put firmly in the > divide between inorganic and biological. That is, dna has a language, which > allows for a rudimentary processing of input from the environment into > choices made in responding to that environment. Thus, when an amoeba shirks > acid, it's "saying" in effect, "I don't like acid". An amoeba's language > represents its consciousness of its environment. > > >> Marsha >> >> >> p.s. I didn't mean the word 'only' in a pejorative way, but in a 'nothing >> other >> than way'. >> >> "nothing other than" is kinda pejorative, but not in a mean-spirited way > but a logically limiting way. > ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
