Arlo,

I have no interest in anything you have to say.  Your hyperbole makes you 
worthless for discussing anything.  


Marsha 
 



On Dec 1, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Arlo Bensinger wrote:

> [Marsha]
> No Arlo, I doubt that you want other than to make a fool of me.
> 
> [Arlo]
> No, Marsha, I want to understand why you think your ideas about Intellect=SOM 
> are better than Pirsig's, what does this view offer you that Pirsig's does 
> not? Does it explain the world better? Does it offer better hope for 
> improving things?
> 
> Along the way, some things am curious about. You said, "science has the 
> subject-object defect, as do all Intellectual static patterns of value...". 
> Do you think any other level has a "defect"? Do you think "defect" is even 
> the right word, since you think this is an inherent flaw in these patterns of 
> value.
> 
> Also, Pirsig had written, "The defect is that subject-object science has no 
> provision for morals.  ...Now that intellect was in command of society for 
> the first time in history, was THIS the intellectual pattern it was going to 
> run society with?". Given that this "defect" is endemic of all intellectual 
> patterns in your view, where Pirsig is calling for a non-s/o intellectual 
> pattern to replace "subject-object science", what intellectual pattern do you 
> think should replace "subject-object science" as the intellectual pattern 
> that should be in command of society, since they are all s/o (in your view), 
> what differences would you this making?
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