[Ron]
That is why it is so important to clearly make
the distinction between intellect=SOM theory with
Pirsigs expansion of reason. The consequences, are vastly
different.
[Arlo]
I think this is exactly right, and this is the
reason I've been asking, to no avail, of all the
SOL-ists to articulate why they find the
Intellect=SOM view better than Pirsig's
Intellect!=SOM view. What consequences of this do they see as BETTER?
[Ron]
Which brings about something I've been
contemplating regarding what Nietzsche said about
philosophy being unable to cure an ailing culture.
[Arlo]
Arnold Toynbee makes the same point, as quoted in
Campbell's Hero with a Thousand Faces. "schism in
the soul, schism in the body social, will not be
resolved by any scheme of return to the good old
days (archaism), or by programs guaranteed to
render an ideal projected future (futurism), or
even by the most realistic, hardheaded work to
weld together again the deteriorating elements.
Only birth can conquer deaththe birth, not of
the old thing again, but of something new...
Peace then is a snare; war is a snare; change is
a snare; permanence a snare. When our day is come
for the victory of death, death closes in; there
is nothing we can do, except be crucifiedand
resurrected; dismembered totally, and then reborn."
I've thought for a while that DQ is too
rhetorically confined to the creative aspect and
is better understood as the Hindu Trimurti, which
encapsules "creation, maintenance, and
destruction". That is, DQ "destroys" as much as
it "creates", or better said "creation always
comes with destruction". Every act of creation
occurs in the midst of destruction and transformation.
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