Hi Marsha, Me again. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:59 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > On Dec 1, 2010, at 7:34 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > [Marsha] > >> Reification decontextualizes. Intellectual patterns > >> process from a subject/object conceptual > >> framework creating false boundaries that give the > >> illusion of independence as a “thing” or an > >> “object of analysis.” > > > Craig > > Suppose you are in the wilderness & starving. The only possible "things" > to eat are 2 fungi. Your field > > guidebook says that one is an edible mushroom, the other a toxic > toadstool. What will you do? > > Even though you "think" there is a false boundary between mushroom & > toadstool, you will eat only the mushroom. > > As Pirsig says: "If you can't generalize from the data, there is nothing > else you can do with it either." > > Marsha: > I agree with RMP, I am not opposed to reification. It's a handy-dandy > tool. > Are there other better tools yet to be developed? I don't know. > [Mark] I think there are ways to change perspective. They require action and cannot be left simply to the brain itself. There is no way we can think how to think differently. No matter how much one tries, the perspective is always the same. So, action, you know, the the pay it forward idea, for example. With action, we set out on a path, and pretty soon we are talking in tongues, and nobody can understand why we have that big smile on our faces. We don't know how we got there either. Logic doesn't help. I suppose drugs help to, but one never know what one may find there, and if it will matter. Sometimes going up in front of a cruel and intimidating professor at the University of Chicago can help. Or so I have been told. I prefer separating myself from my thoughts. I tried fasting once, but I got too hungry Mark > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
