Marsha
Reproduction - sex
Hunger - eat
Thirst - drink
Breathing - er, breathing
etc.
All of the above are physical activities and exist at the
inorganic/biological levels.
I.e. they are not social or intellectual.
Horse
On 05/12/2010 16:00, MarshaV wrote:
Horse,
I think sexual behavior and strategies are built to adapt to the social
environment. I think reproduction is a biological drive like hunger, thirst and
breathing, processes required for survival, pure drive. I think our understanding
of the word sex is different. You seem to be using it more as a reproductive act,
and I see it more as the social ritual&etc., which includes giving and
receiving pleasure.
That's it Horse. No more.
Marsha
p.s. I'm biting my tongue not to ask what horses do. ;-)
On Dec 5, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Horse wrote:
Sexual behaviour and strategies are built into the biological level - otherwise
there would be no biological level and nothing for the social level to emerge
from. Sex and reproduction developed at the biological level - later, social
rituals evolved around sex.
On 05/12/2010 15:23, MarshaV wrote:
Hi Horse,
I see the biological level more process-bound, therefore reproduction. In my
book sex is more about cultural rituals, therefore social level. It's the
strategies within the culture to accomplish the biological process.
Marsha
On Dec 5, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Horse wrote:
Hi Marsha
Or how about sex is one method by which the means of reproduction is achieved -
there are other methods of reproduction. And, often, we get to sex by the
social 'dance' - literally in some cases! The only way I can see sex as social
is when group sex or orgies are on the menu - making sex about pleasure and not
reproduction.
If sex is social then instances of sex (as opposed to reproduction) means that
many biological biological entities (and certainly all mammals) are social
entities.
Horse
On 05/12/2010 14:27, MarshaV wrote:
How about 'reproduction' is biological, and 'sex' is social?
On Dec 5, 2010, at 9:03 AM, John Carl wrote:
Arlo, Mark,
Sex is social. The sexual urge is biological, I'll grant you. Nocturnal
emission or masturbation is biological, I'll grant you. But sex takes two
and occurs through a complex of social negotiation. Even rape is a
sociopathic behavior rather than a merely biological urge. In fact, it's
pretty widely known that rape is due more to rage issues than mere
horniness.
This is a recurring disagreement I have with most of MD. Mark in a
following post says the urge to freedom is biological. I disagree
completely, as I believe all emotions have social roots - the caring about
self in the relation to others. Biologically, our bodies would probably be
quite happy kept in a pod and fed all necessary nutrients.
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