Hi John, On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:03 AM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > Arlo, Mark, > > Sex is social. The sexual urge is biological, I'll grant you. Nocturnal > emission or masturbation is biological, I'll grant you. But sex takes two > and occurs through a complex of social negotiation. Even rape is a > sociopathic behavior rather than a merely biological urge. In fact, it's > pretty widely known that rape is due more to rage issues than mere > horniness. > > This is a recurring disagreement I have with most of MD. Mark in a > following post says the urge to freedom is biological. I disagree > completely, as I believe all emotions have social roots - the caring about > self in the relation to others. Biologically, our bodies would probably be > quite happy kept in a pod and fed all necessary nutrients.
[Mark] Our concept of freedom is an expression of a much larger freedom. If we take an analogy from physics, entropy could also be an expression of freedom. What we do as humans is take a fundamental property and then humanize it. The inorganic strives for freedom, this is then encapsulated by the biological in a different sense, which is then expressed by the social in yet another way. They all have their beginnings way down (or maybe it is up). The levels express these things (which we refer to as concepts) in a different yet same fundamental way. > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
