Marsha, Yes, I saw that and it did clarify for me - the importance of choice in the matter. Choice is key. I'm reading East of Eden right now, and "thou mayest" had a lightning bolt impact on me. Choice is everything. Even if it is the kind of stuff that inspired logical positivism, it's the kind of stuff I hold closest to my heart, always.
John On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:37 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi John, > > I think Wallace explains in the 2nd part that you will not be asked to stop > your thoughts, but to become mindful of them, or be able to take a rest > from them now and then. Mindfulness is to be aware of what are thinking > as a participator, not lost to thought where your thoughts are riding you. > It's quite wonderful. But not to worry, it is not so easy to make it a new > habit. > At least it hasn't been for me. Even so, a few minutes here and there > throughout the day is a treasure. > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 2010, at 3:19 PM, John Carl wrote: > > > Good and interesting, Marsha. I'm a big fan, as you know. But I > wonder... > > what if I like thinking thoughts? What if I enjoy it? > > > > He compared being trapped in our thoughts like an "east german prison > camp" > > and I thought of that foreign movie that got the academy award some years > > back, Life is Beautiful. A Jewish man and his son are put in a > > concentration camp by Nazis and the man tells his son that the whole > thing > > is an elaborate game and he has to play it well in order to win the prize > (a > > real tank) and sure enough, it works in the end. The boy plays the game > so > > well, that he wins a tank. Even though the game is made up, and the > world > > we inhabit is often destructive and evil, when the game is played with > > intention and sincerity, we win. > > > > And Matt, I think I grasp now what you say troubles you about "all the > way > > down". So let me modify it. "It" may not be language ALL the way down, > but > > it's language as far down as I can see, and language as far down as I > need > > to go. > > > > John > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:48 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> Greetings< > >> > >> B. Alan Wallace is a philosopher of science, and his humorously named > >> Wallace Syndrome talks of language 'all the way down.' It's only ten > >> minutes and you might find it interesting. > >> > >> > >> Marsha > >> > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
