On Dec 18, 2010, at 6:09 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Marsha, > > this was your post from which I was prompted towards this question: > > "I think Wallace explains in the 2nd part that you will not be asked to > stop > your thoughts, but to become mindful of them, or be able to take a rest > from them now and then. Mindfulness is to be aware of what are thinking > as a participator, not lost to thought where your thoughts are riding > you. > It's quite wonderful. But not to worry, it is not so easy to make it a > new habit. > At least it hasn't been for me. Even so, a few minutes here and there > throughout the day is a treasure." > > I asked: > how then do you propose to 'take a rest'? > > you replied: > "There is awareness with no thought. That's restful. Or to be aware of > thoughts without attachment to the thoughts is restful." > > [Tim] > Now, this distinction may or may not be lost on me, but still, how do > you 'take'? Or, how do you 'become' (as in mindful of them)? Or, how do > you 'make' (as in a new habit)?
Take? If you want words I can recommend a good book? You want better than my words watch a set explanations and instructions from a master meditation teacher. I have never claimed such a distinction. i do practice mindfulness throughout the day and I meditate. If you would like to know what that experience is like learn it for yourself. Or don't. But I have no words to describe a process that is not outside linguistic process. It needs to be directly experienced to understand it. Marsha > > Tim > > > > On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 05:25:58 -0500, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> said: >> >> Tim, >> >> There is awareness with no thought. That's restful. Or to be >> aware of thoughts without attachment to the thoughts is restful. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 18, 2010, at 4:47 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Marsha, >>> >>> how then do you propose to 'take a rest'? >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 02:30:16 -0500, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> said: >>>> >>>> Tim, >>>> >>>> The self that I am aware of exists as a stream of bit and pieces of >>>> ever-changing, interdependent, impermanent inorganic, biological, >>>> social and intellectual static patterns of value. I have not discovered >>>> an independent, inherently existing entity (I) acting as controller. >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- > > [email protected] > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and > love email again > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
