Hi Platt, Intellect can avoid a process of infinite regress by switching Quality and Truth. Regress comes from attempting to uncover an ultimate source. This is a search for Truth. If one accepts that such a thing does not exist, then any building is based on Quality. This is typical of Eastern education. A child does not ask: "Where do we come from?" because this would make no sense. He asks: "How do we grow?".
We are building outward, not looking inward. This is the Quality approach. Quality is a state of creativity, not of discovery; a process of exploration, not of arrival. There are a variety of ways to break Quality up, all of which are creative. It is working outward, not inward. There is no paradox in creating a house, only one in finding what it is truly made of. Quality creates Truth, but hold on to some firm ground before you go there, it is a wild ride. Cheers, Mark On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Platt Holden <[email protected]> wrote: > Well Ian, if you find a way intellect can avoid paradox or infinite regress, > I hope you will share your discovery. (I don't think intellect includes > intuitive or other nonconceptual experiences.) > > Platt > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Ian Glendinning <[email protected] >> wrote: > >> No Platt, I'm a cup half full person. >> >> It demonstrates the completeness of intellect (if allowed to address >> its own cracks) rather than limiting it. >> They are a freedom of intellect, a room for manouevre, rather than a >> limitation. (if you choose to look at it that way.) >> >> Ian >> >> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Platt Holden <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Hi Ian, >> > >> > Excellent point. Demonstrates limits of intellect and frees one to seek >> > truth between the cracks of static patterns. Or, as Ayn Rand counseled, >> > "Check you premises." >> > >> > Platt >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Ian Glendinning >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >> >> Platt & Craig, both criticising contradiction ... fail to see its >> quality. >> >> >> >> Intellect defining intellect = good news for the enlightenment of >> >> intellect (clue, a process). >> >> Intuititive and invisible = good. >> >> >> >> Unless you're looking for disagreement, of course. >> >> Ian >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:03 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > [Platt] >> >> >> The SOM premise is self-evident and thus invisible to the >> >> >> intellectual level of patterns. >> >> > >> >> > I don't think this is possible. "Self-evident" means "easily seen" >> >> > & "invisible" means "cannot be seen". They are contradictory. >> >> > Craig >> >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list >> >> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> >> > Archives: >> >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> >> > http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> > >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> >> Archives: >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list >> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> > Archives: >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> > http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
