Well Ian, if you find a way intellect can avoid paradox or infinite regress, I hope you will share your discovery. (I don't think intellect includes intuitive or other nonconceptual experiences.)
Platt. ------------------------------------------------------ Interesting line, Platt,...only offering two possible pre-implicated limping answers on a question that is constructed on the postulate that all paradoxes are parenting the same properties,all paradoxes are only bad entry's,and will always have the look and feel to persist,decay , or lead to a path of decay. In reflection on the last sentence, "I don't think intellect includes....etc", the solid answer on it is ultimately unimportant. Only the look and feel counts, the question is only phrased like this,to step above Pirsig himself in an attempt to team up with the non-present Bo again,and pay attention to this, the question is only placed an phrased like this to pull hairs out of our asses/arses?. BTW, Platt, speaking in Bo's name, or representing him in a disguised manner, to give it the look and feel as if you like to help him out on this forum, with his drivel,..honestly in my humble opinion, only will damage Bo. Bo is not completely responsible for all the drivel he generated, really, the flock, the prankers, the jokers behind him, whispering in his msn-ear,handing over pre-scripted material in the background,...are more to be held responsible for the hairballs he presented. It is an impossibility, Platt, to believe that he did it all on his own merits. I think Platt,honestly,that there is an enormeous field out here/there, in regard of the material, the books, that needs to be unveiled, discovered, and i think Bo can and should play a role in this development. I will give you a hint, that is well meant to use,(by Bo) , not by you. The patterns of value.(the value's themselves) Nobody filled in the boundarys,the aspects,properties.At least not in a way that allows evolution or recognition, Pirsig himself left open this field for most part. Mc Watt did not fill it in,Nobody did, it is still 'terra incognita', if Bodvar takes this as a new entry , a new chance, he can freely experiment with it, do the research on this field, without contradicting Pirsig,Mc Watt, the moq or Mr Buchanan all the time. So,imho, Bo, the good Bo has the right to be here,imho he did not have to go. But to re-introduce the endless loop of solaqi, or related old shit....no. DID he go because doing Philosophology was made impossible for him , here? No, Bo left because Bo likes to step into the orchestra to play the altviolin,play it even above the dirigent, without understanding a chord. Bo left , not because he became insane, but he lost control on what he was handling. Bo likes us to believe him when he tells us that he is capable of handling 300 mails a day,and still can stay consistent on all different threads on this and other fora. The prankers in the background, the jokers created most of the bad Bo-part. Truly, platt, if you are his friend, you should not feed his misconceptions to a level that will explode in Bo's face again. 2010/12/31 Platt Holden <[email protected]> > Well Ian, if you find a way intellect can avoid paradox or infinite > regress, > I hope you will share your discovery. (I don't think intellect includes > intuitive or other nonconceptual experiences.) > > Platt > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Ian Glendinning < > [email protected] > > wrote: > > > No Platt, I'm a cup half full person. > > > > It demonstrates the completeness of intellect (if allowed to address > > its own cracks) rather than limiting it. > > They are a freedom of intellect, a room for manouevre, rather than a > > limitation. (if you choose to look at it that way.) > > > > Ian > > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Platt Holden <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > Hi Ian, > > > > > > Excellent point. Demonstrates limits of intellect and frees one to seek > > > truth between the cracks of static patterns. Or, as Ayn Rand counseled, > > > "Check you premises." > > > > > > Platt > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Ian Glendinning > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > >> Platt & Craig, both criticising contradiction ... fail to see its > > quality. > > >> > > >> Intellect defining intellect = good news for the enlightenment of > > >> intellect (clue, a process). > > >> Intuititive and invisible = good. > > >> > > >> Unless you're looking for disagreement, of course. > > >> Ian > > >> > > >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:03 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > [Platt] > > >> >> The SOM premise is self-evident and thus invisible to the > > >> >> intellectual level of patterns. > > >> > > > >> > I don't think this is possible. "Self-evident" means "easily seen" > > >> > & "invisible" means "cannot be seen". 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