Hi John, According to the Big Bang theory, codependent arising happened during the first instance of creation, that is the formation of matter and anti-matter. As the theory goes, there was just a little bit more matter than anti-matter, so that by the time one second came around, all the anti-matter was annihilated, and we were left with matter. So, while this somewhat conforms to your codependent arising, it does need a slight imbalance.. This would correlate well with your premise of reality, since there is a constant dance which implies imbalance. The same can be seen with the predator-prey analogy, they are never quite in sync or static, but constantly going through a over/under trend.
So, codependent arising with inherent imbalance. Could that imbalance be called Quality? I think it can. What do you think? Cheers, Mark On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, John Carl <ridgecoy...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ham and Craig, > > Here's a place for the concept of "codependent arising" if I ever saw one. > Is it at all possible to imagine a creator without any creation? I'd say > not. Therefore it seems to me, that those who are most vociferous about the > existence of God, are actually arguing for the existence of themselves. > > John > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Ham Priday <hampd...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> >> On Friday, 1/14/11 at 9:34 PM, Craig craig...@comcast.net wrote: >> >> >> [Ham] >>> >>>> Agnosticism concerning the primary source amounts to >>>> nihilism, since if you don't believe in a creator, >>>> how can you believe in the illusion it creates? >>>> >>> >>> IMHO the concept of a creator doesn't have much >>> explanatory power, since a creator cannot create itself. >>> >> >> Your assertion is based on the cause-and-effect precept of finitude in >> space/time which, in metaphysical ontogency, leads to the paradox of >> infinite regression. The Absolute Source does not "create itself". Essence >> is uncreated, unconditional, and immutable. >> >> Essentially speaking, >> Ham >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
