Ah sarcasm Mark, just what we needed.

So, as you already knew. No, nothing is out side reality, but words in
discourse are a poor substitute for the reality they discuss - they
are only a small part of the wider reality - as David illustrated.

Ian
PS Peter Hammill I believe.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:53 AM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hmmm Ian,
> Do you really know what you are talking about?  Skirting around
> reality huh?  How do you do that?  Is there an outside to reality?
> Show me.
>
> Gee, words are not what they represent, now that is a concept!  Thanks
> for the insight!
>
> Now VDGG would be fun, I was a big fan of theirs in the early
> seventies.  H to He and all that stuff.  I bought a single by the lead
> singer (whatever his name was) recently.  Interesting, but not VDGG.
> I loved the saxophone parts.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Ian Glendinning
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi David (H)
>>
>> You summarised your impression of Mark's take thus:
>>
>> "If everything is static quality", you seem to say.. "then that
>> appears to be a very sad existence indeed."
>>
>> (You go on to point out lots of non-static things in real life ...)
>>
>> Mark's take hinges on the "everything" in the first clause being -
>> "everything that we can objectivise and discuss in language in a
>> metaphysics discussion forum (or anywhere else)". That would indeed be
>> a very sad existence, but of course life, the universe and everything
>> is a lot more than that, as you point out.
>>
>> As you perceive it's a source of frustration or sometimes confusion
>> for many on MD .... that we can only ever skirt around reality ... but
>> that is the reality of any discourse .... a reason why we need to meet
>> in the flesh at Hawkwind or Van derGraaf Generator gigs ;-)
>>
>> Metaphysics discusses meta-life and meta-reality, it's not real-life itself.
>>
>> Ian
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