Ha, David,

Attending (participating in) a musical event does not require any
lingusitic or intellectual conceptualization of the experience - so
you get a good dose of the dynamic. (Of course there are plenty of
patterns involved in the music and the concert ritual itself, but only
if you analyse them - you can feel the quality without doing that.)

The source of many previous discussions on MD. You used the extreme
sports "buzz" example and others as things beyond our discourse - I
was just reinforcing your point.

(The only reason I picked on Hawkwind and VdGG with a ;-) was knowing
Horse is a fan and had experienced the latter only the day before -
but you could substitute whatever artistic / cultural participation
event that turns you on.)

Ian

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:18 PM, David Harding <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Ian,
>
> I'll bite.  What does this have to do with the first division of the MOQ? Is 
> a Hawkwind or Van derGraaf Generator gig static quality or Dynamic Quality?
>
>
> On 30/03/2011, at 6:48 PM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>
>> Hi David (H)
>>
>> You summarised your impression of Mark's take thus:
>>
>> "If everything is static quality", you seem to say.. "then that
>> appears to be a very sad existence indeed."
>>
>> (You go on to point out lots of non-static things in real life ...)
>>
>> Mark's take hinges on the "everything" in the first clause being -
>> "everything that we can objectivise and discuss in language in a
>> metaphysics discussion forum (or anywhere else)". That would indeed be
>> a very sad existence, but of course life, the universe and everything
>> is a lot more than that, as you point out.
>>
>> As you perceive it's a source of frustration or sometimes confusion
>> for many on MD .... that we can only ever skirt around reality ... but
>> that is the reality of any discourse .... a reason why we need to meet
>> in the flesh at Hawkwind or Van derGraaf Generator gigs ;-)
>>
>> Metaphysics discusses meta-life and meta-reality, it's not real-life itself.
>>
>> Ian
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