Ian said to dmb:

Yes, I do, [think reductionism is the epitome of amoral scientific objectivity] 
which is why the point you snipped was followed (and preceded) by several buts 
and conditions ...


dmb says:
Yea, I certainly noticed your buts and conditions. But surely you realize by 
now 
that I really, really hate that kind of equivocation. You're not being subtle 
or 
nuanced, which would be fine. You're just being a wishy-washy weasel. What 
don't 
you take a position and stick to it, for once. Your efforts to be on every side 
of every issue does not help at all. It's drivel. It's far more egotistical 
than 
intellectual and in fact it almost always confuses and blurs whatever the topic 
or issue is.
Sorry, but that's how I feel. I just hate it. How many years have I been 
complaining about that, Ian? Not hours, days, weeks or months. Years. WTF?

Ron butts in:

It is an interesting example of how we may obtain meaning from what we mean 
when 
we use the term
being "Radically empirical". Does it mean taking all acounts into consideration 
at all times? or may
it mean the ability to elimiate some possibilites based on experience and 
history. To me it means
the necessity to develope and examine our reasons for holding to the ability to 
accurately exercise
value and choice when it comes to the elimenation of certain possibilities 
based 
on the consequences
of their being true. It's what makes some things better than others. 

James might say that we could elimenate certain possibilities based on their 
usefulness.


      
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