Hello everyone On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:14 AM, David Harding <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > With all this talk of free lately, I thought I would write something: > > How do we be free? > > What is free? Am I free now? I live in what many would call a free country, > does that mean I am free? What does free even mean? Free from what? > > The MOQ would say - static patterns are suffering. They represent old age and > death. At the most basic level if you are free from some thing, that is, if > you are free from some such a static quality then you are said to be free. > > In that case how do we experience 'Free'? One way of experiencing free, is by > simply doing something else. If I have the choice to do something else then I > can be said to be free. That's what democracy, or this 'free' country that I > live in is all about. Having the choice to do something else. The freedom. > That thing doesn't have to be better, just so long as it's something else, > something new, that I may or may not have done before, then I can be said to > be free.
Dan: I would say this is what might be termed (within the framework of the MOQ) a conventional freedom. I think that's what Ron and John are pointing at. You're certainly not free to do many, many things. Your freedom is constrained by the static cultural quality patterns of the place you live. >David: > But unlike what most people say in these free Western nations of ours say, > that's not the only way to be free. This first kind of free is really just > more static quality and not truly free. Dan: Yes, exactly. >David: > There is another way to be truly free from static quality. To be truly free > from static quality you can be free from it by getting it perfect. That is, > you find some such a static quality and do it over and over and over again, > until it no longer grates and it's gone. Through doing something, over and > over again, and getting it perfect, static quality disappears. > > This is best experienced by doing something very simple and easy to perfect - > such as sitting in a room. If you sit, the first time you do so your mind > will be very 'loud' and thinking of 10 million things (well mine certainly > was). But the more you sit, the more the mind quietens down, and eventually, > if one sits regularly enough, it stops - revealing the DQ that is there all > along. > > It's strange, because it wasn't what I was really ever told, or what we're > told in the West, but right in the middle of the most monotonous boredom; > Dynamic Quality and true freedom can be found. Dan: Beautifully put. This is something we have to see for ourselves to understand. We can't be told. There are many static quality endeavors that lead to such freedom; perhaps they are different for everyone. For me, working on motorcycles takes me away. Writing takes me away. Sitting takes me away. Cooking takes me away. Eating takes me away. Making love takes me away. Eventually, as I put my full attention towards more and more of these seemingly mundane everyday tasks, I find that the "me" who I thought existed, doesn't. > >David: > To me this is one of the most beautiful aspects of the MOQ. It explains with > brilliant Metaphysical clarity how to truly experience DQ and make things > better as a result. Dan: Yes, I agree. As long as we don't over-intellectualize everything, we come to see that there is more to life than our ideas of life. Thank you, Dan Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
