[John]
Thus his "wider conversation" would not be called "the MoQ", he'd term it "Qualityism". I don't agree that this is the best approach, but I do agree that he has a good point and that the clarification of an ambiguity is usually a good thing.

[Arlo]
Yeah, I don't necessarily think "Qualityism" is a term I'd vote for, I don't know what is, I use it in my own thoughts to group together all the voices that are within what I see as the basic MOQ framework, but have branched out due to some disagreement or extension somewhere. I certainly don't think we need to formalize any term, but like you said I am just trying to tease apart two distinct ways of thinking that both use the term "the MOQ" to define their approach. I think this underscores why, for you, "the MOQ" can evolve into something that runs contrary to Pirsig's seminal ideas, but for Dan "the MOQ" is defined by that which does not run contrary to Pirsig's ideas. You are both using the term "the MOQ", and arguing over who has the valid use, in really looking at two distinct things.

But in saying this, Dan has labeled me someone who think all interpretations are equally valid, and you have labeled me an dogmatic authoritarianist who refuses to acknowledge any voice other than Pirsig. I'd say this is funny, but I hope you see it kinda proves my point.


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