Tuuka, John: >> >> >> >> Inorganic perfection: Light >> Biological perfection: Procreation >> Social perfection: Celebrity >> Intellectual perfection: Enlightenment >> >> > Tukka,
> I strongly disagree that being a celebrity would be any form of social > "perfection". What about criminal celebrities, you know, those child > molesters who need to be isolated from the rest of the convicts for their > own safety? > > John: They'e worked hard and sacrificed a lot to get the attention we give them. To be accorded the same status as kings - to be left alone at will. Social perfection, is by NO means "good". I speak her as analyzing the level discretely. Consider that organizing principle of all social patterns is to fit into a hierarchical structure - preferably at the highest. But some people might aim at the lowest, and thus their attainment of that position is in fact perfect. Think of pitcher who throws a "perfect" game. Does that mean he never threw anything but strikes? No, it means he achieved his aim. Sometimes, even non-zen archers hit the center of the bulls-eye, and it might be luck, but it's still a perfect shot. You hit what you aimed for. Tukka: What about money? Certainly, the essential value of money is not inorganic > (Huh? It's just paper slips), biological (Eat the paper slips? No) or > intellectual (Inheriting a big bunch of paper slips doesn't make you smart). > Being rich but not being a celebrity can be much better for some people than > being a celebrity but not being rich. > > John: Money is celebrity. Most rich people are famous, and the real rich ones who are still striving are all striving for the same thing - social recognition - usually through doing good things with their money. But fundamentally, Tukka, money and celebrity ARE the same, because money relies upon social recognition of status. You could almost think of money as an invention to transfer social status. What else would you say a dollar rests upon? But thanks for asking, Tukka. John Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
