Hi Andre, Hate to be picky, but I was wondering where there is a quote provided. It seems you offer mostly you own personal paraphrasing, which is not a quote.
Marsha On Apr 26, 2011, at 5:25 AM, Andre Broersen wrote: > Ron to Andre: > > Again How does a dissolved point become the overall general meaning of Moq? > > Andre: > I think the term 'dissolved' is not useful here. Pirsig's MOQ REsolves the FW > vs D 'controversy'. (LILA, p 160) > > Ron: > It is an expression of choice that is for sure, and you already stated above > that we may follow static choices as we like, is there a better term than > freedom? > > Andre: > Well Ron, that is what Dan and I (and Pirsig) are trying to make > clear...precisely in what you are saying. The choices I mentioned in my post > are determined by static patterns of value. It places Quality in the > 'object'.... 'if one does this, one will get that if one does that, one will > get this' (cutting corners here but I hope you get my drift). 'But to the > extent that one follows Dynamic Quality, which is undefinable, one's > behaviour is free'. (ibid) > > It seems to me that to equate 'freedom' with 'follow static choices as we > like' is an example of un-freedom which the MOQ exposes. > > Ron: > But we are discussing freedom within the context of MoQ. NoT SOM. If there is > no freedom then the possibility of a MoQ point of view is impossibe right? > > Andre: > Wrong. The MOQ points to the possibility of freedom which is 'determined' > ...to the extent that one follows DQ. > > Ron: > Please supply quotes and please do not ask me to read Lila,... > > Andre: > I did and I won't. > > This is all I have time for now Ron. > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
