Hello everyone

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:09 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, one more point Dan, since I had to leave some previous dialogue
>> behind...
>>
>
>> >David:
>> > I disagree that static patterns evolve towards Dynamic Quality.
>>
>> Dan:
>>
>> Then you disagree with the MOQ:
>>
>> "...Phaedrus wrote on one of his slips, "It seems clear that no
>> mechanistic pattern exists toward which life is heading, but has the
>> question been taken up of whether life is heading away from
>> mechanistic patterns?"
>>
>> Dan comments:
>>
>> It is important to see here too the distinction between freedom and
>> determism as it relates to Dynamic Quality and static quality. Ron?
>> Are you listening? Dynamic Quality isn't structured yet it isn't
>> chaos.
>>
>>
> John:
>
> Are YOU listening Dan?

Dan:

No, but I am reading you being a dick.

John:

 Isn't this ineffable something that is heading away
> from mechanistic patterns just exactly what Ron and I have been saying all
> along?  Mechanism is determinism.  Life heading away from determinism means
> its going in the opposite direction.  What is the opposite direction?
>  Freedom!  Is freedom real?  It must be, it's what the whole MoQ is all
> about.

Dan:

No John. It is not. Don't feel like going into this bs again as that
is exactly what it is.

Dan
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