Steve said to Craig: What is interesting to me is that though we tend to feel like our conscious self is the author of our thoughts, when we mediate--when we make our best effort to be conscious and pay attention to our own thoughts--we notice that that feeling of willing our thoughts is nowhere to be found. This is what Harris means when he says that the illusion of free will is itself an illusion. When we really pay attention, even the feeling of free will just isn't there.
dmb said to Steve: I can't make any sense of that. Marsha: For me, what you are describing - that illusion is itself an illusion - is pointing to the observation that the indeterminate (or Dynamic) is the fundamental nature of the determinate - conditioned/conventional (or static). Illusion, too, is nowhere to be found. It is an easy tactic to fall into defending pragmatic, conventional truths to make one's opponent look nonsensical. It may not even be a tactic. ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
