On Jun 28, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson wrote: > Hello Marsha > > Thanks for your humble answer. > > 28 jun 2011 kl. 15.41 Marsho wrote: > >> On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson wrote: >> >>> Hi Marsha >>> >>> 27 jun 2011 kl. 18.44 sMarsha wrote: >>> >>>> Not to be repeating myself, I neither accept the notion of freewill, nor >>>> reject it. Same goes with determinism and causation. I accept that these >>>> are conventional (static) notions, but not Ultimately real. While living >>>> within a conventional culture it seems wise to sustain social and >>>> biological patterns whenever necessary for one will be held responsible to >>>> that level's "moral" code (laws and punishment. ) >>> >>> Even if you neither accept nor reject it. I really would like to understand >>> what you mean with "The notion of Free Will". Please. >>> >>> Jan-Anders >> >> >> Marsha, >> >> It means whatever it conventional means. What is the meaning of the pattern >> named Justice? How would you describe its meaning? How would you describe >> the meaning of any pattern. I understand static patterns to represent a >> collection of interdependent, ever-changing particular momentary events >> (process) which constantly change as they arise, abide and pass away: and as >> they are continually altered by an individual?s static history and the >> dynamics of the event. I have mentioned before that I tend also to think of >> patterns, pattern(x) for instance, to include all-that-is >> opposite-from-non-pattern(x). That may include a dictionary definition. - >> The horns of a rabbit might be a static notion or pattern. >> >> How well do you think you understand my explanation? >> >> >> Marsha > > Not really sure. You intend to sell a Norwegian Blue Parrot? > > Try again, please. > > Jan-Anders
Jan-Anders, Within this conventional reality, I tend to think of patterns of value not as fixed or frozen or reified, but as events or processes, much more fluid and relational. Defining a spov as all that is opposite-from-non-pattern keeps them closer to experience in the conventional sense. imho Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
