Hi Marsha, This "pattern" stuff that you speak of does not make much sense to me. Isn't non-pattern a pattern? Inquisitively yours, Mark
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:55 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Jun 28, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson wrote: > >> Hello Marsha >> >> Thanks for your humble answer. >> >> 28 jun 2011 kl. 15.41 Marsho wrote: >> >>> On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Marsha >>>> >>>> 27 jun 2011 kl. 18.44 sMarsha wrote: >>>> >>>>> Not to be repeating myself, I neither accept the notion of freewill, nor >>>>> reject it. Same goes with determinism and causation. I accept that >>>>> these are conventional (static) notions, but not Ultimately real. While >>>>> living within a conventional culture it seems wise to sustain social and >>>>> biological patterns whenever necessary for one will be held responsible >>>>> to that level's "moral" code (laws and punishment. ) >>>> >>>> Even if you neither accept nor reject it. I really would like to >>>> understand what you mean with "The notion of Free Will". Please. >>>> >>>> Jan-Anders >>> >>> >>> Marsha, >>> >>> It means whatever it conventional means. What is the meaning of the >>> pattern named Justice? How would you describe its meaning? How would you >>> describe the meaning of any pattern. I understand static patterns to >>> represent a collection of interdependent, ever-changing particular >>> momentary events (process) which constantly change as they arise, abide and >>> pass away: and as they are continually altered by an individual?s static >>> history and the dynamics of the event. I have mentioned before that I tend >>> also to think of patterns, pattern(x) for instance, to include all-that-is >>> opposite-from-non-pattern(x). That may include a dictionary definition. - >>> The horns of a rabbit might be a static notion or pattern. >>> >>> How well do you think you understand my explanation? >>> >>> >>> Marsha >> >> Not really sure. You intend to sell a Norwegian Blue Parrot? >> >> Try again, please. >> >> Jan-Anders > > > > Jan-Anders, > > Within this conventional reality, I tend to think of patterns of value not as > fixed or > frozen or reified, but as events or processes, much more fluid and relational. > Defining a spov as all that is opposite-from-non-pattern keeps them closer to > experience in the conventional sense. imho > > > Marsha > > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
