>Dan said:
> What's with that, grandpa?
Dave
Sorry, no grandkids. I don't believe that age alone qualifies one for that
honorific.

>Dan
> I figure (as it takes one to know one) that you must include yourself in
> this menagerie.

Dave
Of course. But I must admit I'm here now mostly for the humor. Kinda like
having The Onion delivered to your doorstep minute by minute.

>Dan
> I see you complaining but I don't see you offering any solutions.

Dave
Solution to what? Fifteen years of people squabbling over Pirsig's second
not so popular book? Though I did some time ago suggest to Horse that the
best thing he could do for Pirsig's work would be to shut this site down.

>dmb chimes in:
> Pirsig has sold 5 or 6 million and in the last few years there two Ph.D.
> dissertations and two Masters theses have been written about his work. This
> means that Pirsig may very well achieve academic success as well as popular
> success, despite the fact that he was never got an advanced degree in the
> field. No, sorry. The question is based on a premise that does not comport
> with reality.

Dave
I believe the numbers you quote are for ZaMM and the discussion here is
centered around Lila and the MoQ. What are the numbers for Lila? Less than a
half a million? If we discount you because of your inherent bias, in nearly
fifty years, three people out of nearly 7 billion, what an overwhelming
academic response. Might this not be only proof that the "Dussenberry
approach" is alive and well in academia? " The question .... does not
comport with reality?" Really? In fifteen years how much consensus has been
reached here on Pirsig's take on that?

>dmb
> And besides, all accusations are not equal. Some are valid and some are not.
> "I'm rubber and you're glue" is not a valid defense against accusations of
> weaseldom. It's just more weaseling on the part of the weasel. Any reader who
> actually cares would be able to see the difference.

Dave
Since you introduced the term and have continued to use it I will have to
defer to your expertise on weaseldom.

>dmb
> Pirsig's work does, however, attract people with a history of mental illness.

Dave
Subtle ad hominem? Or honest confession? My guess is, if by 'work' we mean
his philosophy, it also attracts those with other personality traits or life
experiences similar to Pirsig. Loner, underdeveloped social skills, etc,
etc. just like weasels. And if we expand weasel classification to include
badgers, we would run across the honey badger and its myth. That would
certainly add some understanding of you and Marsha's love fest.

Dave 





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