Hi Dan, For the record, you are the last one I would call a weasel, myself included.
Let's take the number one definition voted on by consumers like you: Weasel: a light self-propelled tracked vehicle built either for traveling over snow, ice, or sand or as an amphibious vehicle. Now, perhaps you are light on your feet (at least you seem to be), but I know for a fact that you do not live by the snow. Not only that, but it is mainly reptiles that are amphibious. Now, if you want to go fishing in one of those holes in the ice, I can recommend many other suitable vehicles that would serve your purpose. One should not confuse a weasel with a beaver either. Sometime the term "beaver" is used in a derogatory chauvinistic fashion. That is, unless it is stuck to Mel Gibson's hand. Then yes, we are dealing with a mental illness, but certainly not of his making. I have not seen Mel's name on the forum unless it is dmb, which is damn monkey beaver. On to the question of Pirsig and his fading into the sunset. This is an appropriate question, and as I believe, it was brought up in this forum by a Norwegian who posted maybe two times and then was never to been seen again (into the sunset to with his Zircon Encrusted Tweezers ready to start his dental floss empire in Montana. Since he does not speak the language, I will not invest in that adventure. Pirsig was popular, as you know, when both you and I read his book. There are many newcomers who did not have that experience. So, they are not the right people to address with the question. It is not their fault, they are just ignorant (that would be weasilus ignoramus). So, who do we have left? It is really hard to tell since we have everything from an octagenerian (not Pirsig, who may be older, anybody know his birthday), down to some kids who are still wearing short pants. This leaves you and maybe me. So I will pitch in. Any movement requires three things: 1) and active creator of the movement; 2) A willing and faithful audience; and 3) Being in the right place at the right time, in the right way and doing the right line, being the rights Dr. in the right John, and, of course: Slipping, dodging ,sneaking Creeping hiding out down the street See me life shaking with every who I meet Refried confusion is making itself clear Wonder which way do I go to get on out of here So, Just need a little brain salad surgery; Got to cure this insecurity. Mental illness notwithstanding. Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends, Brain Salad Surgery Greg Lake's Palmer gift to Emerson. Oh what a LuckyMan he was (was). In the 70's, the stars aligned for all that Being. But the times they are a changing. You remember when Physics was a God? You remember when Peyote was not illegal? Toads maybe but not the plant variety. So here we have it" 1) The creator went into seclusion 2) The audience became more interested in the Sony Walkman than the bookish trend 3) And: I been in the right place But it must have been the wrong time I'd have said the right thing But I must have used the wrong line I'd a took the right road But I must have took a wrong turn Would have made the right move But I made it at the wrong time I been on the right road But I must have used the wrong car My head was in a good place And I wonder what it's bad for Now, need I say more? I know that you understand since you are not too young and not too old. It is a waste to ask the pimple-faced boys who hold the centerfolds really close to their (you know) in order to make it more than just an illusion. One time and the pages are stuck. In a not nasty way, the pages got stuck on Pirsig. Keep up the writing, I am enjoying it. Are all these separate stories or just one big novel? I am having a hard time figuring out the plot. Something about indians dying to meet girls who do not want to stay unless God's prayers are answered. Thanks for the literature, Mark On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello everyone > > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:57 PM, David Thomas > <[email protected]> wrote: >> All, >> >>>> dmb: >>>> I'm done with this. You're impossibly thick and I'm wasting my time. >>> >>> Marsha >>> Awwww. "Insult and evade, insult and evade. Your standard operating >>> procedure is an endless loop of weaseling." >> >>>X Acto >>> Only rigid pricks do that. >> >>> dmb: >>> And so I denied it, of course, and >>> accused Steve of making stuff up. And when I complain about these wild >>> distortions, he calls me a "dick". >> >>> Dan: >>> Well, just because a person has a rigid prick doesn't necessarily mean >>> they are a rigid prick. Right? >> >>> Steve: >>> You can probably imagine that I see the situation somewhat >>> differently, that is, unless you are as narcissistic as you so often >>> seem to be. >> >>> dmb says: >>> Riddle me this, viking woman: What is the difference between a genuine >>> paradox >>> and your equivocating weasel words? >> >>> Marsha: >>> You sure don't now... Ad hominem attacks, and you say she says he says are >>> the best you can do. >> >>> Andre: >>> The foundation of your snotty behaviour in your bucket is that you appeal to >>> the 'ultimate' unreality of everything. This makes you nihilistic whilst >>> pretending to be so smart. Was Heroshima an illusion? Was Nagasaki not real? >>> Was this also an illusion? >>> >>> I am sure you wriggle out of this as well Marsha, perhaps suggesting it is >>> not >>> this not that. But you come over to me as a very opportunistic and therefore >>> dishonest person...blowing with the wind. >> >>> Steve: >>> It appears that you have bought into dmb's false claim that Marsha has >>> merely weaseled out of making an argument. >> >>> Steve: >>> As ought to be clear from the above exchange, it is dmb who tried to >>> weasel out by calling Marsha a weasel. As Marsha said, that seems to >>> be the best he can do. >> >>> dmb says: >>> .... I was responding to a different set of Marsha's "equivocating >>> weasel words". ... You really are an asshole and liar. It's flattering in a >>> way but I'm also shocked at how low you've gone here. What a sleazy thing to >>> do. I've lost all respect for you. ... >>> >>> ...And on top of all that, do you really think it's unfair to characterize >>> Marsha's mantra as equivocation, as meaningless weasel words? I don't. >> >>> Marsha: >> > ... And I don't remember you responding to Dan's last post to you? Was >>> that weaseling, or attack and run? >> >> >> [Dave] >> Months ago someone started a thread asking, Why RMP's philosophy was not >> catching on, more popular? I thought it was an interesting question but the >> responses were few and the thread died quickly. >> >> Boiled down any answer to this question must lie in two areas: The quality >> of Pirsig's work and the quality of those attracted to it. Of Darwin, Thomas >> Huxley said, "I am his bulldog." Based on the quotes above (and years of >> similar ones) it appears Pirsig attracted a confusion of weasels. And the >> source of this confusion? Why the work of course! > > Hi Dave > > Not sure what I have to do with this (other than to prefer having a > rigid prick to being a rigid prick) but you seem to be calling us all > confused weasels (watch out if we start foaming at the mouth...we > might be rabid), including the author who's work we are considering. I > figure (as it takes one to know one) that you must include yourself in > this menagerie, but I am unsure what constructive criticism can come > from such an observation. What I mean to say is, if this is really how > you feel then what are you doing here besides wasting your very > valuable time with a bunch of rabid weasels? And if you do not really > feel this way but are simply passing the time by spouting inane drivel > aimed at inflaming more shit-slinging, well then bully for you. Aren't > you just above it all. I see you complaining but I don't see you > offering any solutions. What's with that, grandpa? Just more of the > same old, same old, I suppose... > > (Don't press the send button, Dan. Don't do it! 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