Hi Marsha Ever considered about dialectics, survival of the fittest, mutations, enthropy and atomic disintegration?
Jan-Anders 3 aug 2011 kl. 14.26 MarshaV wrote: > On Aug 3, 2011, at 7:59 AM, MarshaV wrote: > >> >> On Aug 3, 2011, at 7:53 AM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote: >> >>> [Ian] >>> If you saw it as the whole world with nothing / no-one beyond the horizons, >>> even then I suspect it would / could. >>> >>> [Arlo] >>> MRB's initial question was "would it occur to me on a desert island?", and >>> the >>> answer is "no". According to the MOQ, intellectual patterns of value do not >>> spontaneously arise from the biological level. They emerge from the social >>> level. >>> >>> "Mental patterns do not originate out of inorganic nature. They originate >>> out >>> of society, which originates out of biology which originates out of >>> inorganic >>> nature." (LILA) >>> >>> In this case, MRB would have the range of agency opened up to him on the >>> biological level, but he would not have access to social or intellectual >>> patterns, in other words, no social or intellectual activity. >>> >>> And if you are talking not about "occurring to", but something witnessed by >>> some hidden observer, then this observer would see MRB exhibiting about the >>> same range of "free will" as an unsocialized ape. (The ape would be seen >>> "choosing" to eat a banana, and so would MRB, but neither would be able to >>> "choose" any behavior endemic to the social or intellectual levels.) >> >> Hi Arlo, >> >> Don't you think this might be a problems with considering all 'thinking' to >> be >> intellectual, or intellectual patterns? >> >> >> Marsha >> > > > I can, though, see that answer as 'the intellectual level is pure thinking'. > That might > be thinking detached from experience and context; thinking generalized to a > degree > where it becomes totally abstract. But I cannot agree that all thinking is > of the Intellectual > Level. I don't have it clear yet, but do you get my general drift? > > > Marsha Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
