Hi TV, MRB,

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Michael R. Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, Tuukka Virtaperko -
>

>> TV
Instead, it [MoQ] can approach the culture surrounding the work as an
>> anthropological phenomenon.
>
MRB
> Reminds me of a certain Metaphysics that speaks Social with Intellectual
> patterns. : p
>
TV
>> many capable people before Pirsig
>
MRB
> Does he have any predecessors that come to mind? I think he's hit well on
> the Western Tao.

Mark
In my opinion, one of the great analogists for Western Tao was Alan
Watts.  He made the subject understandable.  Since Zen is a mixture of
Mahayana Buddhism and Taoism (Zen being called "Chan" during its
golden age ~800 to 1000 AD), He brought all three into the West in an
entertaining way.  Of course my knowledge on the subject is limited,
so there it is.  For me, he set the stage for my reading of ZAMM.
>
> One of my favorite moments in ZAMM is where it's realized that the DeWeeses,
> as Romantics, look with some horror upon technology and feel it's got a
> death force in it. Brilliant! Rousseau takes it on the chin there. One
> reason I like Rand (again) and Camille Paglia. I extend that realization
> into economics wholesale.

Mark
Yeah, it is sometimes useful to use the "two kinds of people" format
to make things understandable.  It is interesting that Pirsig
considers himself to be Classical, while Phaedrus was Romantic.  In
this way, RMP is able to refer to himself in the third person past
tense.  While at the end of ZAMM he claims that Phaedrus is back
(written in the present first person), the subsequent publication of
Lila belies this possibility.  Lila is highly analytical despite the
attempt to provide the adventure narrative presented in ZAMM.  As
such, the views of the original Phaedrus are lost due to the
electrical "normalization" of his brain.

Do you know when the sequel to the Rand movie is due to premier?

Cheers,
Mark
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