Hello everyone

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 4:05 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> [Dan}
>> Yes, but Michael... there are different ways of "knowing" without
>> verbal cognition. Body language is a prime example... as a watcher
>> of people I've learned to interpret what they're saying with their
>> bodies even while they say something completely different with their
>> words. Understanding that still requires interpretation though, just as
>
>> the people who understood what Horowitz meant by making non-verbal
>> sounds.
>> Otherwise, it is just noise.
>>
>> No?
>
> [Khaled]
> Right. and that's why the 'calculus equation" has to take Time and Space
> into account.
> The definition of time would be universal and space = Culture/society

Dan:

I'm not sure I follow. The way I understand the MOQ, time and space
are intellectual quality patterns that are some of the first to arise.
A baby reaching out to grasp a pretty colored toy is experiencing the
prospective of space for the first time. A cry in the night answered
by a mother's (or a father's) loving arms is the baby's first
prospective of the passing of time.

As we grow older, those first intellectual concepts of space and time
are reified into objects that exist independently from us and are part
of a concrete world which we all agree is really there. In truth we
couldn't function without the concepts of space and time. But it
doesn't necessarily follow that time and space are universal. It only
means we have learned to agree on such concepts.

Does that make sense?

Dan
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