Hiya Dave
I think what Steve's saying here is something similar to what I said a
while back.
As I understand the MoQ, all actions are moral actions (i.e. value
judgements) but some actions are better or worse than others. And some
actions are downright immoral - such as intellect being dominated by
society etc.
In Lila Pirsig states:
"The Metaphysics of Quality says that if moral judgements are
essentially assertions of value and if value is the fundamental
ground-stuff of the world, then moral judgements are the fundamental
ground-stuff of the world.
It says that even at the most fundamental level of the universe, static
patterns of value and moral judgement are identical. The “Laws of
Nature” are moral laws."
So, while it is entirely possible (and for some people entirely normal)
to act immorally, it is impossible to act amorally.
Pirsig gives many instances of immoral behaviour throughout Lila in
relation to the MoQ but his references to amoral behaviour are, for the
most part, in the context of the problems of a SOM - i.e. amorality as a
mistake of the objective part of SOM.
So neither myself nor Steve (nor Pirsig) are saying that immoral
behaviour is not possible. Just amoral behaviour/actions etc.
Cheers
Horse
On 26/08/2011 03:31, david buchanan wrote:
Steve: What doesn't seem to be allowed in the MOQ though is to say that one
behavior is morality and another is merely prudence since all behavior (and
everything, period) is a matter of morality.
dmb says:
By that reasoning, there can be no such thing as immorality in the MOQ. Does
this not strike you as an absurd conclusion? It's like saying everything is
Quality so there is nothing bad and all things are excellent. It's just silly.
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