Hi John,

You said:

> It is interesting to me too, what you point out ...

Steve wrote:
> What is interesting to me once again is that despite the fact that
>> "all the great spiritual leaders have held it as centrally important"
>> in discussing morality, Pirsig does not talk about empathy,
>> compassion, and love to explain morality.


> John:
> I guess what you mean by "does not talk about" is defining it exactly.
>  Because in my opinion, his entire oeuvre revolves around the very thing.
>  Because Quality IS caring.  Thus love IS morality.  And since he spent a
> couple of books talking about it, I have a hard time following what you mean
> by this.


Steve:
When I say that Pirsig does not talk about love, empathy, and
compassion. I mean that as far as I know, the words "empathy" and
"compassion" are not in his texts, and the word "love" is only used in
ordinary "he loved chocolate cake" sorts of ways. But far more
importantly, it is not just a matter of not using those particular
words which the "great spiritual leaders" have used to talk about
morality in Pirsig's talk about morality. He doesn't deal with those
concepts by other words either. He doesn't talk about moral progress
as self-enlargement, as the expansion of the circle of concern, the
increased ability to sympathize with wider and wider groups of people
from self to kin to proximate community to broader communities of
humans while being more and more inclusive in who can count as a human
deserving of respect. You say you disagree, but I doubt you can find
any passages that talk about what the "great spiritual leaders" talked
about in other Pirsigian terms.

Best,
Steve
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