On Sep 5, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Matt Kundert wrote: > > Hey Ian, > > Matt said: > What this local creation of "one use of DQ" from Pirsig cries out for > is a systematic supplementation of a laundry list of uses, thereby > moving us forward in "what Pirsig means." > > Ian said: > I like the "laundry list" idea. Anything too systematic or definitive > would destroy it (the ineffable DQ), but archetypical examples would > be useful. > > Matt: > It might be worth saying that perhaps part of the reason for the > queasy feeling people have towards too much systematicity of > thought in interpreting Pirsig can be attributed to not making a > distinction between Dynamic Quality and "Dynamic Quality." > > For example, if one makes that distinction, it makes no sense to say > that one could destroy Dynamic Quality by systematizing Pirsig's use > of "Dynamic Quality," because it immediately shows one how the > thought cuts against the grain of what Pirsig intended--which was > never the thought that _he_ was evacuating the full meaning of DQ. > (This distinction between DQ and "DQ" may perhaps catch Joe's > distinction between the "metaphysical description DQ/SQ" and what > he took to my abandonment of it in favor of the "laundry list." I > hope this and what follows suggests why I do not take the issue of > abandonment to even arise.) > > You, Ian, didn't intend to say that, but I think you can see the slip > between the two senses now between what I said and then you said. > And I think this is a common slip for many, one too often (if, as I > sincerely think, almost entirely unconsciously) used to cover against > having to do the hard work of excavating in long chains of argument > and close reading "what Pirsig means." It's easier just to "groove > on it," to use the hippie DQ-lingo.
Hello Matt, I am looking forward to your laundry list concerning DQ, and even more to your attempt to string them together into a logical syllogism. Add my Oxford quote if you like. I also resent your "groove on it" remark. I have an advanced degree, but I'm not trying to posture as an Academic. I would think a GOOD motorcycle mechanic, or carpenter, or a musician, would be as welcome on this list as university students and university instructors. No one should be forced to speak academiceze.; well, only Chimpanzees. Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
