Hi Matt and all,

Since you are talking relationship, there has to be a standard for judgment.
Am I a decent human being?  What are my credentials?

For myself as a self employed plumber I was always pretty messy.  As a
singer in a Church choir I observed that something occurred that was
confusing.  I could not adapt my spontaneity and messiness as a plumber to
singing.  I had to change spontaneity to harmony, and messiness to a written
structured libretto.

I had to get into a different place.

I made efforts, got into different places in discipline for an acceptance as
a singer.  It required study!

My take on that is:  Don't look to "a one discipline fits all" solution,
like logic, in a metaphysical discussion DQ/SQ where a precision needed for
understanding is important to communication.  It's a struggle.

Joe   

On 9/6/11 1:20 PM, "Matt Kundert" <[email protected]> wrote:

> And perhaps the most
> important question for amateur self-definition: even if you would
> never make anyone else follow your own standard, what is
> _your relationship to others_?  In a discipline, this has a clear answer.
> But in amateur philosophy, it might be something to continually
> meditate on.
> 
> Matt            


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