On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Ham Priday wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, 9/06/11 at 5:14 PM, "MarshaV" <val...@att.net> wrote.
>
>> Hello Ham,
>>
>> Ron is clinging to a silly, little boy's notion of illusion for his own
>> purposes. Here's Ms. Albahari's short, but formal definition:
>>
>> "When X purports (through a medium of appearance) to exist
>> in manner F, to person P, X-as-F is illusory when X does not
>> really exist in manner F."
>>
>> She explains "Most generally, an illusion involves a conflict between
>> appearance and reality. Sometimes, X, appears to be the case,
>> but there is something about S that does not reflect reality' it
>> MISLEADS the person to whom it appears. In other words,
>> X PURPORTS, through the appearance, to exist in a particular
>> manner, than X does NOT REALLY exist in the purported manner."
>
> Albahari seems to be saying that what we experience is a "distortion" or
> misrepresentation of what is real.
No, I do not agree with your interpretation that she points to "distortion" or
"misrepresentation", only that it does not exist as purported.
> This is obviously true. We know that things are not what they appear to be.
> Parmenides explained the "world of appearances", in which one's sensory
> faculties lead to conceptions which are false and deceitful. This inspired
> Plato to theorize that things were really "essences" that we couldn't know,
> until Kant came along and described physical reality as
> "things-in-themselves". Later, Bishop Berkeley undertook to prove that there
> is no such thing as matter at all, that the world consists of nothing but
> "minds and their ideas". (Pirsig's MoQ basically converts this self/other
> dualism to Quality and its patterns.)
>
> Then Kierkegaard extended Christology to the philosophical view that reality
> cannot be fully comprehended by reason because human existence is always
> involved in choices that are absurd from a rational viewpoint. He conceived
> of each person as a unique human being responsible for his/her own actions,
> which implies that one's existence creates one's essence, turning metaphysics
> upside down and sparking a new movment called Existentialism. Kierkegaard's
> concepts were developed in the 20th century by Martin Heidegger, Karl
> Jaspers, Jean-Paul Sartre, and Gabriel Marcel.
Your version of the history of philosophy? I wonder how many different ways
the history of philosophy can be described.
The basis of the Reality within the MoQ is
Quality(DQ(unpatterned)/sq(patterned)).
> In my opinion, Parmenides had it right in the first place. We do live in a
> world of appearances where being is presented finitely to the senses as
> differentiated phenomena and interpreted intellectually as existential
> reality. But existence is a co-dependent reality whose primary contingencies
> are Sensibility and Otherness. It cannot be reduced to a monism, nor can it
> exclude subjective awareness. Existence is the actualized ("particularized",
> if you will) mode of the essential Whole which transcends it. That Whole is
> uncreated, absolute, undifferentiated, and immutable.
>
> There you have 'Essentialism in a nutshell'. Pirsig would say it's
> metaphysics by a 'nut case', but I'm not discouraged. I don't have all the
> answers, nor do I ever expect to. But the worldview I have managed to garner
> from the wisdom of philosophy serves me well and convinces me that Value is
> my inextricable connection with Essence.
I am sure Mr. Pirsig has a great deal of respect for you. I still think you
and I may find agreement in the experience of 'pure awareness.' The most
important question: How does one stay directed towards Dynamic Quality? (I'm
not sure of the equivalent terminology in Essentialism.) I think the answer is
in staying in the state of 'pure awareness.'
> I only wish that conviction could be imparted to the nihilists in this
> community.
Simply calling one a nihilist is an ad hominem argument and not worthy of being
taken seriously.
> Essentially yours,
> Ham
Marsha
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