Coward!   You're always talking out the side of your mouth.  



On Sep 8, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Ron to Ham:
> 
> Excellent Ham, exactly what I was hoping to draw out of the comment. 
> Unfortunately Marsha seems
> to have missed this point.
> 
> Andre:
> Right Ron, Marsha missed this point or perhaps she just didn't bother because 
> she does not recognize any 'point'. The way she's behaving on this discuss 
> makes me wonder if she knows her arse from a hole in the ground. Sorry to put 
> it this way but her reasoning basically is DQ=sq. No difference. All 
> discussions on this md about metaphysical concepts are considered to be 
> without inherent existence and therefore illusory. Well that's fine but 
> Marsha uses this illusory character to mean insignificant, unimportant, a 
> mirage, a relativity in the sense of meaninglessness.
> 
> No idea is better than another. All are relative because illusory and hence 
> she slithers on the nihilist flatland film of snot.
> 
> She keeps on putting up so called Buddhist inspired quotes to substantiate 
> her argument (which is a wonderful contradiction when you think of it) but it 
> only shows her flimsy knowledge with regard to its proper place, use and 
> value. She even quotes Wallace and Hagan to add authority. Authority, which 
> she questions the use and value of when used by other contributors.
> 
> I think she hasn't even read the back of Hagan's little book where Pirsig 
> suggests that "If you're looking for enlightenment rather than just scholarly 
> knowledge, you'd better read this".
> 
> She isn't into scholarly knowledge because she fundamentally distrusts the 
> church of reason. Any reference to 'academia' is suspect. Hence Marsha's 
> anti-intellectual attitude.
> 
> She still doesn't accept that the MOQ is a stable, intellectual pattern of 
> value. For her it still is 'experience' (following good old Bodvar).
> 
> And of course she'll deny this. Of course she'll say that we do not know what 
> she thinks (she has said this!)She'll decide whether to take you seriously or 
> not Ron. This depends on her mood and where her interest lies at that moment, 
> but since she is an ever-changing pattern of values I would not hold my 
> breath.
> 
> I have certainly stopped taking her seriously and I'm certain that she 
> doesn't care because that's only my opinion and accounts for nothing. 
> Anyone's opinion for that matter...including Pirsig's.
> 
> Meanwhile she's looking for a shared agreement with Ham 'in the experience of 
> 'pure awareness'.
> 
> Very sad indeed.


 
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