Steve said to dmb:
You misunderstood. (Big surprise!) .. the subtle difference between... 1. being
educated on something you don't already know and 2. ...being told something
that obviously you already know...
dmb says:
Right. Exactly. Your resentment is based on the belief that you already know,
as if there isn't anything I could say that you don't already know. An expert
like yourself can't be bothered with anything basic to the MOQ, especially if
I'm using quotes you've seen before. Your cup is full already, right?
As I see it, you and Matt both resent my long-standing accusation that you
don't rightly understand Pirsig's central term; Dynamic Quality. In that sense,
yes, I certainly belief that you both have something important to learn about
the basics. "Central" is a more flattering word, but it also means "basic".
Notice how that DQ element effected two separate conversations on two different
topics, one with you and one with Matt? I tried to explain how following DQ was
the key to both issues, the key to understanding free will in the MOQ and the
key to creative intelligence in amateur philosophy. In both cases, you guys
just won't hear it. You both refuse to listen because you're already convinced
that Quality is just a compliment we pay to sentences - or whatever Rorty says.
Statements like that show that you really are missing something rather big and
basic. It pops up over and over in just about any topic precisely because the
issue is so basic and central to the MOQ. Misreading something that central
will almost inevitable lead you into all sorts of perplexities and dead ends.
I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings, but don't you see that in the way you
both tried to read Pirsig in our respective conversations? Matt, you could
barely stand to acknowledge the role of DQ, describing
it as a "blank page". Not the source and substance of everything, but a blank
page! And, Steve, free will is all about the extent to which we follow DQ,
which is exactly where you crash and burn too.
Your resentment is based on the smug belief that you've got it all figured out,
that you can't be told anything by the likes of me. And if I dare to presume to
correct you, then I must be some kind of arrogant prick. And your credential
are based on what, exactly? Refusing to listen for ten years does not mean you
are an expert. It just means you're stubborn and way too full of yourself.
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