Steve, Apart from the meta-point of defending yourself against dmb, do you actually have a point ? (about determinism / free-will / compatibilism / terminology / MoQ, ...)
Just one please. Ian On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Steven Peterson <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Ian, > > Ian: > > I can see that dmb is the "target" of your conversation - and that there > is > > a meta-topic here - your not-so-well-hidden agenda. > > Steve: > I thought I was being explicit about the issue being the meta-topic with > dmb. > > Ian: > > Do I "approve of" dmb's style of argumentation ? Well no - but his style > is > > his style. In every exchange with you or him (or anyone else) I'm looking > > for the point - something to add to "progress" with understanding and > living > > in the world. > > > > I can respond to EVERY question with "it depends what you mean" - it adds > > nothing - it's an endless loop. > > > Steve: > Sure, you could do that, but at some point if you and your > conversation partner are communicating well then both you and your > interlocutor agree that you both understand what the other is saying > about an issue even if you disagree about what we ought to conclude. > At some point, "it depends what you mean" is unnecessary. It always > depends, but at some point you understand one another. > > > Ian: > > And therefore I share dmb's frustration with you - make your point or > shut > > the fuck up. > > I just happen to have a different style ;-) > > Steve: > I don't know what you could be asking for here (as I have responded > several times, what is _your_ point?) if you are talking about the > issue rather than the meta-issue. On the issue itself for the most > part I have just been trying to defend myself against dmb's attacks. > In that regard "my point" is that I am not a "hack" or "immune to > logic" or "wildly incoherent" or "illogical" or a so-called "thinker" > or simultaneously asserting mutually exclusive positions, etc. > > Best, > Steve > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
