Dan:

Since the MOQ states that ideas come before matter, then it is our
ideas about the histories of rocks that take precedent over rocks
themselves. That is (what I took to be) the point in ZMM about the
laws of physics and the number system being seen as ghosts. The
history of rocks exists as an idea in our heads.
 
Ron:
Not that it is missed, but to punch up the notion that matter is an idea,
which I believe the statement "ideas come before matter" illustrates,
should change the way the conversation progresses from here.
 
 
Therefore the history of rocks literally IS rocks themselves there is no 
distinction save the static/dynamic one.
 
 
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