OK Mark
On Nov 19, 2011, at 2:49 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mark, > > You ask me: "Are you sure....?" Sure? Would that be "sure" like in > "true"? That is some kind of an asshole question to present to me if I ever > saw one. The Ultimate Truth (DQ) cannot be captured. It's static quality, > which for me is conditionally co-dependent, impermanent, ever-changing and > conceptualized. That's how I understand what you write too, and it doesn't > prevent me from reading and considering your posts. > > > Marsha > > > > On Nov 10, 2011, at 1:56 PM, 118 wrote: > >> Hi Marsha, >> >> Thanks. >> >> Are you sure that Dynamic Quality really IS that? How does one know >> the unknowable? How does one create three adjectives for the >> indivisible? How does one define the undefinable as your "For me..." >> states? >> >> For static patterns, is the "conditionally" an independent source? >> How does the concept of processes come into the picture, are processes >> defined before co-dependent arises? That is, is there a third >> component which defines the process? Is the ever-changing aspect >> unchanging? If things are predictable, how does something >> unpredictable come into the picture (like the Black Swan)? >> >> How does the Flow of static patterns manifest? Is there flow and then >> Self, or is there Self and then flow? Do the static patterns >> represent flow? Are the static patterns dependent on flow, or is flow >> dependent on static patterns? Are flow and static patterns dependent? >> >> I am not getting on your case and I did ask you for your opinion, >> which I value. I am just asking questions that I find interesting to >> further explore. I do not have the answers. >> >> >> I am sorry I missed the whole Intellectual Level Brew-haha, it must >> have been interesting. Someday I will visit the archives on that one. >> Usually when there is tension in a dialectic it is interesting to see >> how it plays out. Sounds a bit unfinished to me, or else the >> combatants were unwilling to see what could be learned. >> >> Cheers, >> Mark >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:01 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> QUALITY: >>> >>> For me… Dynamic Quality is indivisible, undefinable and unknowable. >>> >>> Static patterns of value are processes: ever-changing, conditionally >>> co-dependent and impermanent. (Not independent objects, subjects or >>> things-in-themselves.) Ever-changing processes that pragmatically tend to >>> persist and change within a stable, predictable pattern. These patterns >>> are categorized into a four-level, evolutionary, hierarchical structure: : >>> inorganic, biological, social and intellectual. >>> >>> --- >>> >>> SELF: >>> >>> The “self” is a flow of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent and >>> impermanent, static patterns of inorganic, biological, social and >>> intellectual value in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality. >>> >>> --- >>> >>> INTELLECTUAL LEVEL >>> >>> Not allowed to be presented. >>> >>> --- > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
