Mark, You ask me: "Are you sure....?" Sure? Would that be "sure" like in "true"? That is some kind of an asshole question to present to me if I ever saw one. The Ultimate Truth (DQ) cannot be captured. It's static quality, which for me is conditionally co-dependent, impermanent, ever-changing and conceptualized. That's how I understand what you write too, and it doesn't prevent me from reading and considering your posts.
Marsha On Nov 10, 2011, at 1:56 PM, 118 wrote: > Hi Marsha, > > Thanks. > > Are you sure that Dynamic Quality really IS that? How does one know > the unknowable? How does one create three adjectives for the > indivisible? How does one define the undefinable as your "For me..." > states? > > For static patterns, is the "conditionally" an independent source? > How does the concept of processes come into the picture, are processes > defined before co-dependent arises? That is, is there a third > component which defines the process? Is the ever-changing aspect > unchanging? If things are predictable, how does something > unpredictable come into the picture (like the Black Swan)? > > How does the Flow of static patterns manifest? Is there flow and then > Self, or is there Self and then flow? Do the static patterns > represent flow? Are the static patterns dependent on flow, or is flow > dependent on static patterns? Are flow and static patterns dependent? > > I am not getting on your case and I did ask you for your opinion, > which I value. I am just asking questions that I find interesting to > further explore. I do not have the answers. > > > I am sorry I missed the whole Intellectual Level Brew-haha, it must > have been interesting. Someday I will visit the archives on that one. > Usually when there is tension in a dialectic it is interesting to see > how it plays out. Sounds a bit unfinished to me, or else the > combatants were unwilling to see what could be learned. > > Cheers, > Mark > > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:01 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> QUALITY: >> >> For me… Dynamic Quality is indivisible, undefinable and unknowable. >> >> Static patterns of value are processes: ever-changing, conditionally >> co-dependent and impermanent. (Not independent objects, subjects or >> things-in-themselves.) Ever-changing processes that pragmatically tend to >> persist and change within a stable, predictable pattern. These patterns >> are categorized into a four-level, evolutionary, hierarchical structure: : >> inorganic, biological, social and intellectual. >> >> --- >> >> SELF: >> >> The “self” is a flow of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent and >> impermanent, static patterns of inorganic, biological, social and >> intellectual value in the infinite field of Dynamic Quality. >> >> --- >> >> INTELLECTUAL LEVEL >> >> Not allowed to be presented. >> >> --- ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
