Hi Joe,

I am also content to accept evolution as one of the highest working 
intellectual hypotheses.  It's seems a might fine pattern.  


Marsha 
 

On Dec 3, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote:

> Hi Marsha and Mark,
> 
> I do not know how you envision evolution, language?  Pirsig changes the
> status of "Quality" from a adjective, relative existence, in SOM to a noun,
> DQ indefinable existence, in MOQ.
> 
> What is the logic supporting this change?  It can only be some change in a
> reality of existence like evolution not simply definition since DQ/SQ
> describes a metaphysics of existence, not simply a correction to SOM's real
> and intentional existence in terms of quality.  Are there adjectives, nouns
> etc. in the MOQ?  How does logic change from SOM to MOQ?
> 
> For myself I am content to accept levels in existence, evolution, as a
> reality of DQ/SQ metaphysics.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/2/11 11:39 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Mark,
> 
> I know you've said that you are sick of the sutras, but the Heart
>> Sutra explains that 'Emptiness is form, form is emptiness'.  I understand the
>> relationship between DQ/sq to be the same.  But this can be, should be,
>> experienced not just conceptualized.  There seems to be middle degrees 
>> between
>> being a Buddha and being comatose or a newborn baby.  It's been said by many
>> that it is right there in front of you, something you've always known.  And
>> you don't need mind-altering drugs.  Maybe it helps to find encouragement 
>> from
>> someone we think we can trust, from someone whose explanation seems real
>> enough to seem possible.  
> 
> But you think on it.  And then stop thinking for
>> long enough to see.
> 
> 
> Marsha 



 
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