And this coming from somebody who doesn't understand Evolution is high
support indeed.  I suppose ignorance is a fine pattern indeed.  Your
Faith is astounding, and perhaps just right for you.

On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:16 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Hi Joe,
>
> I am also content to accept evolution as one of the highest working
> intellectual hypotheses.  It's seems a might fine pattern.
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote:
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>> Hi Marsha and Mark,
>>
>> I do not know how you envision evolution, language?  Pirsig changes the
>> status of "Quality" from a adjective, relative existence, in SOM to a noun,
>> DQ indefinable existence, in MOQ.
>>
>> What is the logic supporting this change?  It can only be some change in a
>> reality of existence like evolution not simply definition since DQ/SQ
>> describes a metaphysics of existence, not simply a correction to SOM's real
>> and intentional existence in terms of quality.  Are there adjectives, nouns
>> etc. in the MOQ?  How does logic change from SOM to MOQ?
>>
>> For myself I am content to accept levels in existence, evolution, as a
>> reality of DQ/SQ metaphysics.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/2/11 11:39 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Hello Mark,
>>
>> I know you've said that you are sick of the sutras, but the Heart
>>> Sutra explains that 'Emptiness is form, form is emptiness'.  I understand 
>>> the
>>> relationship between DQ/sq to be the same.  But this can be, should be,
>>> experienced not just conceptualized.  There seems to be middle degrees 
>>> between
>>> being a Buddha and being comatose or a newborn baby.  It's been said by many
>>> that it is right there in front of you, something you've always known.  And
>>> you don't need mind-altering drugs.  Maybe it helps to find encouragement 
>>> from
>>> someone we think we can trust, from someone whose explanation seems real
>>> enough to seem possible.
>>
>> But you think on it.  And then stop thinking for
>>> long enough to see.
>>
>>
>> Marsha
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