Hi Dave,

On Dec 22, 2011, at 6:51 PM, David Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:

> [Mark in closing asked:]
>> Instead of asking whether Buddhism is an ancient take on psychology,
> we could
>> ask whether psychology is a modern take on Buddhism.
> Wouldn't that be more
>> appropriate if the past creates the present?
> 
> [Dave]
> What possible practical difference would that make?

Mark
It makes all the difference in the world, it is a different paradigm.
> 
> I think we can both agree on this:
> 
> Data: Suffering (pain-physical & mental) is a part of human experience.

No, it is not a part, it comes from how we perceive reality.  It is not 
determined.
> 
> The basic gist of your rants is that psychotherapy, trying to be a science,
> is most often wrong in its basic research, diagnosis, and thus misguided at
> best and often harmful in its therapy.

No, my basic gist is that psychology is the wrong paradigm.  By claiming to be 
scientific it strengthens its paradigm in this day and age.
> 
> How does viewing psychology as a modern take on Buddhism correct the
> following psychobabble?
> 
> Diagnosis: The source of all suffering is human desire.
> Therapy: Desire can be mitigated or eliminated through prescribed, guided,
> life long practices. (Which of course you will have to pay for whether or
> not they are effective)
> Expected Outcome: If successful all suffering will be eliminated.
> 
> It was a rhetorical question.
> 
It shifts the psychobabble to a new paradigm removing it from psychology. 
Desire can only exist if one subscribes to it.  That is, if you make it real.

A rhetorical answer.

Thank you for your rants.
> 
> 
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