Hi Ian, > Hi folks, I've hung back out of this thread - even though my original > catch-phrase was "it's (the MoQ) evolutionary psychology, stupid" - so > now it's hard to know how to interject. > > I too cannot see how the "psychology" of Pirsig and the MoQ can be > anything but interesting and relevant. > > Even the psychological breakdown (hard enlightenment maybe, Pirsig > suggested) is relevant, the whole Orpheus episode. I lose count how > many times I've invoked the phrase "there but for grace ... (go we > all)". Of course between that direct personal enlightenment and > writing up the MoQ, Pirsig thoroughly objectified what he was dealing > with - think of all those index cards of facts and meta-facts, started > even before the ZMM trip - but of course so much fit with wider > philosophy was unknown to Pirsig until much later. > > I've had the psychological angle on Pirsig since I first encountered > his work, but more recently I've been commenting on the > "rehabilitation" of Maslow in the "positive psychology" school - the > parallel's between Pirsig's levels and Maslow's hierarchy are patently > obvious (even here on MD many years ago). > http://www.psybertron.org/?p=3907 [Dave] As you remind us the issue of psychology has been integral to the discussion of the MoQ for a long time. What I was dismayed about in the AHP transcript was the feeling of RMP's lack of interest? or unawareness? dismissal? of the field while writing Lila.
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