Mark,
So... what would you say of the following kind of solution. You ever heard of those "election machines", what do you call them? An online questionnaire, which gives you the candidate who agrees with your views the most.

What if you just complete a questionnaire, once every four years, which tells the government what you want? If you want to add a question relevant to you to the questionnaire, you just get enough people to sign a petition.

What if politicians were replaced with experts who would simply have the task of adhering to the results of the questionnaire, and the option to issue notifications to people about their predictions of the outcome of their voting acts? What if these people were not paid more for their job than the average income in the US?

-Tuukka



23.1.2012 20:14, 118 kirjoitti:
Hi Tuukka,
We just have different views.  Not uncommon.

Personally I do not like using a leaky pipeline through the State for
money to get from one person to another.  In this country much of the
money is lost in the bureaucracy, the government is way too large and
wasteful, and it is a self sustaining nightmare (IMO).  Many of us
believe that the government should be directly responsible to the
citizen in the same way an employee is responsible to his/her boss,
rather than government officials being responsible to themselves.
There is a growing elitism within our government, and many people make
a carreer out of it.  The notion of civil servant seems to be lost.
There is lots of money to be made through the government, and
temptation is difficult to control by politicians who mostly think of
themselves and power.  For that is the nature of someone who wants to
rise within the control structure.  I think that power corrupts this
particular breed of human.

I prefer direct transactions where I get paid directly for the work I
do.  It just seems more efficient to me, that routing it through a
governement.  For some in the government their only job is to get
money and give it back.  I still have high regard for the human spirit
and it doesn't need to be controlled by a certain group of people.
But, that is my opinion, and it does not make me right.  I respect
your opinion as equally right.

Cheers,
Mark

On 1/22/12, Tuukka Virtaperko<[email protected]>  wrote:
Mark,
to clarify my point regarding the welfare trap. If approximately 50% of
my income went to the state, it doesn't mean I'm paying roughly as much
tax and such as any other Finn, although tax revenue is 44 % of GDP. VAT
is usually 23 % here, so if I used all my income to buy something, state
would get approximately 73 % of my money.

-Tuukka



Mark,
this is not an unfriendly conversation, and not something that would
stand out as inconvenient for me. I agree the USA has lots of charity.
But I'd like to point out that in the US, total tax revenue is 27% of
GDP. In Finland, it's 44 %. Although giving 5 % of money to charity is
good, it doesn't necessarily even a 17 % difference in tax revenue as
percentage of GDP. I do not expect to ever be hard up for money to
survive, but I'll remember what you said in case I will be.

-Tuukka

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