Mark,
no wonder you have so many problems there then...
Okay, Chicago is such a place then.
TV
25.1.2012 18:43, 118 kirjoitti:
Hi Tuukka,
I am not sure what you mean by an identity building tool. Politics is
all about building an identity.
In terms of Chicago, what I meant was that a "machine" is in place
(maybe less so that before) which delivers election results which are
not representative. Some say that it was this machine which gave JF
Kennedy his presidency. Chicago is notorious for the strong hand of a
few, and the tampering of elections. It is no better than Russia or
Iran in this sense.
All my opinion of course,
Mark
On 1/24/12, Tuukka Virtaperko<[email protected]> wrote:
Mark,
no hard feelings. I was having a very similar conversation on LS with
Platt, and it took a lot of time. Thought it was important, though. I
guess we're beginning to be finished here.
Mark: Part of our political process is through the rhetoric of convincing.
It requires people to get together and discuss things. Many people
make emotional decisions when voting (and there is nothing wrong with
that). The solitary filling out of a form on the internet would
probably only attract the real political die-hards, and the general
population would not participate. Besides, in this country most
people do not know specifically what they want outside of their
kitchen. Me? I go as far as my garden.
Tuukka:
Everyone who cares about politics can still convince and debate. But
politics is not supposed to be an identity building tool. Ie. if someone
works at Burger King but has big tits, she might vote right wing because
she hopes to get a rich man because of her big tits, even though she's
making her own job worse.
Mark:
In this country, Chicago is an "election machine", if you know what I mean.
Tuukka:
I guess I have missed an essential tv-show or something. But saw Some
Like It Hot just yesterday or the day before that. Guess you had a lot
of booze and machine guns in Chicago in the twenties, lots of police
too. We had prohibition in Finland too and that's when the drinking only
got started.
-Tuukka
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