Hi Ron,
On Mar 17, 2012, at 6:20 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> [David] > > The Metaphysics of Quality with all of it's levels and distinctions is an > intellectual creation. > > Ron: > Many would agree, with the caution of viewing the evolutionary aspect as what > "is" or what > is "real" as bending toward an objective positivism which begins to run > counter to the primary > understanding that as you say evolution is an intellectual pattern. > Many arguements twisted in misunderstanding and conflicting context have > emerged from this. > Having said that, a note of caution also in regard to the statement that all > experience is > intellectually derived, certainly some will want to attack on the the grounds > of solopsism. > > What can be said is that a MoQ is an intellectual idea about making good > value distinctions. In some ways, what David is presenting can be called "the paradox of intellectualization". It would be the use of the intellect to define the intellect. This would be my way of presenting the caution you put forth. It may be a self-generated trap which David is setting by confining the Whole with the intellect. Once this paradox is understood (intellectually of course) it is possible to deny it in the same way that Xeno's paradoxes are dismissed on intuitive grounds. Any logic which claims to include why logic exists becomes a "meta-logic". Logic can never claim to describe itself, for this too results in a paradox. Any intellectual presentation of the intellectual becomes an "egg giving birth to itself". It denies anything which may exist outside of the intellect. To present static quality as a manifestation of static quality is one such immaculate conception. "Good value distinction" results in an intellectual idea such as MoQ. In this way we place Quality at the beginning. This is not solipsism since solipsism also results from "good value distinction". All just an opinion. Cheers, Mark > > .. > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
