On Apr 20, 2012, at 3:22 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Apr 19, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Andre <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Except for Marsha so it seems. She's happy to sit on her ever changing
>> patterns of ignorant bliss, using the tetralemma and citing Watts, Hagen,
>> Nagarjuna, Anthony's PhD, Pirsig himself and a host of others to deny she
>> even exists, to deny she even has a 'self' for there is nothing that holds
>> 'her' together. She denies passively observing. She denies being a 'stable
>> condition'. She denies being a jungle of static patterns of value capable of
>> apprehending Quality.
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> Marsha:
> It cannot be said that the self (I) exists;
> it cannot be said that the self (I) does not exist;
> it cannot be said that self (I) both exists and does not exist;
> it cannot be said that the self (I) neither exists nor does not exist.
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> How can one deny what hasn't been found to exist to begin with? The 'self'
> and 'I' and 'mine' and 'my' are merely nominal conventions labeling a stream,
> or flow, of patterns. These terms are pragmatically used for social
> discourse.
Marsha asks:
In what way is identifying patterns as "yourself" other than just another
pattern, although, in your case, a very special pattern? But wait, isn't that
specialness you identify just another pattern too?
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