Marsha to Andre:

You are wanting to change the subject from an I-less mindfulness and its imagined 
conflict perennial philosophy to a "moral self"?

Andre:
I will ask the question again: Who(or what)found all those floating patterns 
you encountered in this state of 'mindfulness? In other words, to whom(or 
what)did they arise?

This is a very easy question to answer Marsha especially you who presents her 
self to be an expert on mindfulness (since this, I presume, lies behind [or 
underneath] you argument that DQ is none other than sq...thereby messing up 
Pirsig's philosophy at its foundation which, as he has repeatedly stated, is a 
static intellectual pattern of value.

And, yes, you are the first person in the entire history of the world who 
claims something different to what the perennial philosophies are claiming 
based on countless first hand experiences. Now, either you are incredibly 
unique or plainly delusional.

No need to ask which one I think is the more appropriate description.


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