Hi Dan, you're right of course, But clearly I meant knowing - in a sense we cannot necessarily rationalize - so we could be wrong , but it shouldn't stop us trying. And yes, I agreed with Marsha's "do" - but I guess "try to do" is probably what I/we meant. Do try. (I is we, anyway) see Jonathan Haidt.
Sent from my iPhone On 6 May 2012, at 21:36, Dan Glover <daneglo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello everyone > > On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Ant McWatt <antmcw...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> >> Ian Glendinning stated May 6th: >> >> Trying to do something better - knowing what's better - which is I >> believe what Ant just said (and Marsha too - "do"). >> There is nothing else. > > Dan: > "Do or do not. There is no try." [Yoda] > > "The story was of a struggle between good and evil, but the koan it > raised was, "Which was which?" Was this person really good or was he > perhaps also evil?" [Lila] > > I have a couple problems with what Ian has written here. When he > writes "knowing what's better" he assumes we really can know what's > better beforehand. But it raises the question: which is which? Is what > we do better? Or is it worse? There's no telling until after the fact. > > And reading Marsha's post, she seemed pretty adamant about doing, not > trying to do. I mean, if you missed that, then there's little more I > can say. > > >> >> >> Ant McWatt comments: >> >> Ian, >> >> While I agree with your sentiment here, I guess what I was essentially >> trying to convey in my last (rather bad tempered) post to Mark is William >> James' concern about being as clear as possible with one's rhetoric. I'm >> sure Mark has a genuine interest in the MOQ but his "Moving On" post was >> just too verbose and loose for my liking. > > Dan: > As you see, I don't exactly agree with Ian... but be that as it may, I > do essentially agree with your (rather bad tempered) post to Mark. > I've come to see exercises such as addressing posts to certain > individuals who shall remain nameless as rather a waste of time. And > God knows we all have precious little time to waste on nonsense. > > Too, we do not need someone to tell us that they're educated... show > us. All writers learn that right off... don't they? > > Thank you, > > Dan > > http://www.danglover.com > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html