Hello everyone On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Carl Thames <ctha...@centurytel.net> wrote: > I don't know how it came up, but recently I stumbled across what's known as > "The Hard Question" about consciousness. Specifically, that question is how > consciousness arises from inorganic material. Our brains and bodies are > made up of chemicals, etc. and yet from those inert chemicals we get > consciousness, until we die, then we become inorangic material again as we > break down through the process of decay. What would the MOQ have to say > about that? Anybody know?
Hey Carl According to the MOQ consciousness doesn't arise from inorganic material... it arises from the Dynamic interplay of all four levels of evolutionary existence. Biological patterns of quality (like the brain) arise from inorganic patterns. They share little other than an evolutionary history... in fact, biological patterns can be seen as at odds with inorganic patterns, subsuming them for their own use. Social patterns of quality arise from biological patterns. These patterns cannot be seen. Unlike inorganic and biological patterns, social patterns of quality exist in the mind. Take the President of the United States as an example: there is no way to examine President Obama and determine that he is the President. The fact that he holds office is a social pattern, one with which we are all familiar. But there is nothing to his person that indicates he is any different than any other man. Intellectual patterns of quality arise from social patterns. We are all ensconced in the culture that we inhabit. That culture informs our ideas of the world. Our response to Dynamic Quality is filtered through our ideas, our perceptions of the world as we know it to be. In the MOQ Dynamic Quality is seen as synonymous with experience. So in answer to your question, it seems clear that we do not become inert chemicals when we die... we are inert chemicals to start with. Consciousness does not magically imbibe those chemicals with life... they are still inert chemicals being made use of by biological patterns. Does this help answer your question? Thank you, Dan http://www.danglover.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html